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Comment on When you’re done by b3245v7uert

b3245v7uert — Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:04:26 +0000

>(and to keep stripping all the Ubuntu niceties and adding GNOME goodies).
Oh, it’s like as if I’d written it myself:) I remember ‘stripping’ in 10.4, then 10.10, then 11.04, around which the ammount of stuff to be removed got just impossible to bear. Also, I remember it’s around pre-11.10 when Ubuntu said goodbye to Synaptic in favor of that something they use. To make matters hotter (and harder), I don’t even use gnome, but ion3/notion since 2009. So I had even more to remove each time.
So finally, I backed up my dotfiles, all the settings, made a safe home partition, then just killed ubuntu, switched to debian testing and after 1 hour of setup I was free from that every 6 moth feeling that “oh no, it’s coming again”:)
At the same time, I understand ubuntu’s moves, if you want to have fancy refrigerators with Unity it’s ok for me, but:
-Software center
-unity
-binary blobs
-compiz
-pulseaudio
all this together is just suffering:)

why suffer?

Comment on When you’re done by Tm_T

Tm_T — Sat, 09 Mar 2013 09:34:10 +0000

I don’t believe referred to Kubuntu but the turmoil going on in Ubuntu community as a whole.

Comment on When you’re done by foo

foo — Sat, 09 Mar 2013 03:52:30 +0000

All of Debian could use some more help!

http://www.debian.org/intro/help

Even the Debian KDE team!

http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/

Comment on When you’re done by keithzg

keithzg — Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:37:19 +0000

Why loiter around making useless noise when a community and its project change in ways you’re not comfortable with?

If you’re referring at all to the Kubuntu devs, it’s not at all a matter of ‘just stepping down’; it’s a distinct distribution with its own character, and universally useful applications (like Muon, which is providing KDE and Qt with a package manager to actually rival Synaptic). The question isn’t about walking away and letting Ubuntu be, it’s the question of whether Kubuntu can continue to exist based on Ubuntu, and if not if it should migrate.

I’m only speaking as a user here, but for me Kubuntu is the opposite of your own situation. You’re looking for an up-to-date and reliably-released Gnome-atop-Debian, and thus the moves that Ubuntu has done over the last few years haven’t interested you. For me I was looking for an up-to-date and reliably-released KDE-atop-Debian, and over the last few years the work that the Kubuntu devs have done has been increasingly upstreamed and beneficial for KDE as a desktop in general.

The move to Mir, along with other bits and pieces, potentially threatens the viability of KDE. So I think the statements and points that folks like Harold Sitter and Johnathan Riddell have made are worthwhile to make. Not to mention Martin Gräßlin, who as the KWin maintainer seems quite right to chime in to reply to Shuttleworth’s claim that he has “absolutely no doubt that Kwin will work just fine on top of Mir”.

I commented on Mark’s blog that “As someone who loves the Ubuntu base but loves KDE above all else, I know that I, and many others, will hold you to that Mark.” Unsurprisingly, although it would’ve been the third comment in that entry, it’s still “awaiting moderation”.

Just my 2 cents as a user from the KDE side of the Ubuntu community.

Comment on First Community Appreciation Day by My Bookmarks » Ubuntu 12.04 Development update

My Bookmarks » Ubuntu 12.04 Development update — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:04:45 +0000

[...] out on the action, here is a few folks who participated: James Gifford, Bilal Akhtar, Michael Hall, Juha Siltala, Dario Cavedon (Italian), Mark Shuttleworth, Daniel Holbach, Joey Sneddon at OMG!Ubuntu!, Benjamin [...]